Monthly Archives: September 2011

Tobey, Gorgeous Betta Fish with Lucious Fins

Tobey is a Red Cambodian Butterfly HM

 

Tobey

Tobey

Name a food you were surprised to like.

this is one of the suggestions as to what to write about in you’re blog if you can’t think of anything. I am never at a loss for words but here goes,

Octopus

I am never surprised by what foods I like.

Octopus for breakfast, Eggs and salmon for dinner, and you don’t really wanna know what i put in the blender. [sometimes i share on Twitter though.]

Other people sometimes are surprised and a little grossed out though.  😄

More of my Pets

Hissers

Hissers

I have about a dozen in an aquarium. For a few minutes, [under an hour], after they shed their exo skeleton they are pure white and look like little angels XD. I thought I had an unusual bug there for a little while. They take turns turning white, even the biggest adults.  I went to Arizona for two months to care for my terminally ill friend. While i was away my brother cared for my critters and liked the roaches enough that he asked for some. I split what i had with him and now I’m so jealous! He gets to keep his at work on his work bench.

[He owns the business, lolz]

Betta Fish

"Sid" Blue Devil Crowntail Betta Male

Suffering over a Bus

9.12.2011

I’ve been poking the bear again, and this time I found a particularly irrational, emotional, mean bear.

I dare say, the first time I started a conversation like this, it was with a very confused and frightened 13-year-old girl. She was all freaked out about politics and her parents, or someone, had her about convinced that the world would soon end. The person I spoke to this time was not as mature, though she kept reminding me of how old she was and actually called me a snot-nosed kid before it was over.

The world very well may end, but there’s no sense in worrying about it or being so freaked out that you destroy any happiness you might find until then.

This all started when I got an email in my box, attacking the current president and the stupid bus he rode in. Most of the time I don’t  bother with these politics-related hate emails and just delete them, but this one was so negative and emotional I decided not to ‘just let it go’. Everyone has their opinion, but since I don’t follow politics, or the rumors that run amok on the internet, I have very few opinions, and ‘know’ even less.

That is not what I was trying to discuss with this person. I’m calling her ‘Sue’ for this.

I think it is very important to be responsible for what we send out over the internet,

If we can’t check our facts directly, [by being there]  at least include what our sources were.

We used to discuss politics and other things going on in the world with our neighbors over the fence or with a couple of coworkers in the office.

Now we have the ability to reach thousands and even more people in a very short time. One person sends something to 10 people; they each forward it to 10 people and so on. It’s how computer viruses spread and how information, and misinformation is spread.

It is also how I got hold of this message. The heading was *Secret Service Buys Two New $1.1 Million Buses For Three-Day Trip…*

I don’t’ think it’s too much to ask people who want to spread what could be a rumor, to check and include sources. 

In my reply, I said “Cite you’re sources, I don’t consider anything without sources.” 

I hoped she would send me a link for more information, or even just a link saying what she just said. I know she isn’t the first person to worry over these buses.

Below, I left my replies just as I sent them. I am not including Sue’s messages for 2 reasons.

1. I don’t want to spread information without doing the research and finding reliable sources, and that is not the purpose of this writing.

2. I was hoping to show Sue how needlessly freaked out and upset people get over what is likely just rumor and help her or someone else  find a way to calm down.

[At this time, I personally don’t think there is any such thing as a ‘reliable’ source, but it is important to consider both sides of any story.]


> ——– Original Message ——–

[summed up in my own words]
Sue compared the current president with other past presidents  or political figures that she apparently didn’t like.
Sue used a lot of meaningless phrases like, “How stupid does he think we are?”

*Secret Service Buys Two New $1.1 Million Buses For Three-Day Trip…* was her headline. It sounds terrible and frivolous and would definitely cause emotion in the reader. That is what whomever wrote it first, wanted and what she obviously wanted, trying to convince others to believe like she does. [which seems very important to Sue]

She said the buses were made in Canada.

She went on to tear apart the president’s itinerary. I have no idea where she got it, and she never told me. Seems like it should be secret and the general public shouldn’t have access to such details [my opinion]. Again, whether that is truly what’s going on, I don’t know and she doesn’t either. That’s my whole point.

But she’s repeating it and reporting it as fact. So that makes her the bear. It’s bad enough to vote after only listening to one side, but to send information out on the internet as truth without sources, is just irresponsible.

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What I thought was a simple reply to the first message follows:
> From: mia
> To: Sue

Before anyone should take this sort of stuff as truth, to start with, you would have to cite your sources. Please see my
blog entry : https://roadplug.wordpress.com/2010/07/04/obama/

It is way too easy to spread misinformation on the internet and get all upset over ‘nothing’.

Mia
http://www.roadplug.com
“We see things not as they are, but as we are.”

Maybe I should have included more info, but I think in this case it wouldn’t have helped.

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One of the “reply to all’s” replied first, made because i ‘accessed’ her email. I explained that i didn’t access her email. I applied to all when i replied and assured her that she would never hear from me again, as long as none of her contacts included her email in a forwarded message. From her angry reply, she didn’t seem to get how that works either.

Of course it wasn’t a completely innocent ‘reply to all’. I ‘replied to all’ to see what kind of irrational, negative emotion I could stir up in the small group and there is a huge nest of irrational, negative thought patterns rolling around politics.

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A couple of days later, Sue wrote me a long message, even longer than the first, [but without pictures] reintegrating what she said in the first message. She called me wrong too. I made no statements to be wrong about. She could have said, “I have no sources. I don’t know where this came from.” or better yet “it came from John on XYZ news 69, the link follows . . .” But no, she just went on and on about the ruin of the country and how she’s paid thousands of dollars in taxes.

She also pointed out that I shouldn’t argue with her because she’s old and been voting forever. She said I needed to do the research. She missed the whole point of my first, short email. I don’t wanna research, I don’t care – I want her and other people who send out information like this to research the facts before they send out misinformation.

And besides, wasn’t asking her for her sources, part of doing research myself?

If i had I been inclined to look into her stand on the subject further, I would want to know where she got her information. [Below I included the research WITH SOURCES that I did when this conversation ended.

So I replied:

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Hi Sue,

I don’t have to check sources. I’m not sending emails about important stuff, as truth.

I have nothing to prove either way. My reply wasn’t even about politics or right or wrong. I just said “cite sources” and that ‘I’ wouldn’t believe anything without reliable sources.

I hope you do check sources and check your sources sources. If you have sources that you are convinced are correct, more power to you.

Did you read the blog entry concerning a conversation I had with a 13-year-old? She also reacted emotionally, negatively and repeatedly threw memes at me when I dared to ask if she’d checked her sources or if she was just repeating what she heard from her parents.

Check my signature. “We don’t see things as they are, we see things as WE are.”

I know very, very little about politics, and I don’t care to know, accept that it causes a lot of suffering when people take it all too seriously.

I know, you are shocked by that statement. I think I can hear you scream, “BUT WE HAVE TO TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY!”

No we don’t. I don’t. If I did I would be a crazy emotional person over things that I alone, cannot change. You feel so strongly about this, you could start your own website or blog and reach more people than sending out email.

My statement to you and others generated an emotional response without real ‘sources’.

It is human nature to get upset and react with a lot of emotion and repetition of popular memes when someone thinks others are questioning them.

My intention in replying was mostly experiment and fodder for my blog. I hope folks will realized how such intense, negative emotions are attached to any discussion about politics, and how unnecessary it all is.

Politics has been politics since the world of ‘politics’ started. [Probably the same time as humans started, but again, I don’t know, I haven’t researched it.]

One thing I know for sure is that Politics won’t change no matter how upset we get about it and repeat the stories we ‘hear’ to each other.

I can feel how emotionally attached you are to people thinking the same way you do. I hold nothing but gratitude and compassion for you, and all those others who suffer emotionally about these things.

And why since we are having this email exchange, isn’t everyone you sent it to included? A group discussion would have been fun, but I am too lazy to look everyone up again and include them. Feel free to forward this if you want.

How mad are you now? Are you still angry with my response? Do you still think I am ‘defending’ one president or another?

If you are, feel free to answer me directly if you like, or include everyone you did the first time. If you don’t want to talk about this with me, that is fine too and you will never hear from me again, if you don’t answer.

If you answer, so will I 😀

It is not my intention to add to your stress.
May you be happy and at peace.

* stay tuned for the next discussion, about religion. 😀

Just kidding, smile and take a deep breath.

If you are still mad at me for sharing my thoughts with you, remember – You shared first – and you never know who might forward or reply to what you put out on the internet.

I reply to anyone who sends me this type of email. Some I never hear from again, and some keep writing to me and wind up with me in their friend list. 😀
It’s all good.

Mia
http://www.roadplug.com
“We see things not as they are, but as we are.”

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Her response a couple of days later.

I know you are [Sam]s friend; but you are really full of yourself to be lecturing someone like myself who has been voting since 1960 and has paid thousands and thousands of tax dollars to our government during my working years.

Please spare me any more of your disrespectful messages, young woman. I have not time for a snot nosed kid’s “truth”.

Do yourself a favor, Sam and refuse to send onto this woman any messages I send to you. You are far more willing to consider views of others, than this person.

Signed,
Sue Lemony, PhD

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Lecturing? I hoped to discuss, or even have some healthy debate, but no. How can you lecture, when you tell someone more than once “I don’t know?”

She’s not the only one who has paid thousands of tax dollars to the government during her working years.

And how were any of my messages disrespectful? I thought they were friendly and open-minded. I even suggested she start her own site to spread what she thinks is so important. 

It is not disrespectful to ask where a self-appointed ‘teacher’ got their information.

And who isn’t willing to listen? I am perfectly willing to listen to and consider views of others. But not just because a very emotional  person said I should. I wanted to know where she got her information – I would have considered it . . . maybe.

But I guarantee either way, I wouldn’t have got my blood pressure up over it. [and no, my bp is still not up. I enjoy and learn from these exchanges.]

I have nothing to prove either way. I said multiple times, that I don’t know.  I said “cite your sources” at least once and that ‘I’ wouldn’t believe anything without reliable sources.

I have the up most respect for elderly people

and have worked in nursing homes as a CNA and with hospice as a volunteer whenever I have a chance. I do it because I want to help relieve others suffering. I do not do it because I want to disrespect them in any way, or wipe their poopy butts.

That was a little disrespectful to the elderly, lolzzzzz. But its my blog.

One day, maybe sooner than later, I will need someone to wipe my poopy butt. I have really bad insurance and don’t want my family to have to do it, so i guess my butt will have to stay poopy. 😄

[But insurance and medicine is a bear of a different color, to be poked right after the fanatically religious bear is poked.]

***And I haven’t been a snot nosed kid in 4 decades. Again, she assumed that she had correct information, but had no reliable sources.

I never once said, “You are wrong you old raisin, these buses were not purchased just for this trip or just for Obama.”

I could have – –  i found sources that say that the Secret Service ordered and purchased these buses over a year ago and they were purchased from a company in TENNESSEE

[And I cite my source below]

I think Sue is so sure she’s right and so sure that I was going to argue with her that she never really read my messages, either that or she has a comprehension problem.

As it happens I got curious, I was thinking that probably I could find positive information, showing that this particular situation was not so shocking if not entirely libelous.

AND I DID!

In fact, it was all I found – I used the first two websites that came up in a Google search about Obama’s buses and both painted a much more benign, unspectacular picture [in my opinion].

The info I found said the buses
*were not purchased just for Obama’s trip. They were purchased by the secret service for all their protectees and ordered OVER A YEAR AGO. The Secret Service used to lease buses, but found they needed more security.

SOURCES: (FOR MORE INFORMATION)
U.S. Secret Service gets 2 new buses ahead of Obama tour [her title was worded, slightly differently.]
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20092460-503544.html

Sue’s other complaint was that the buses were made in Canada

Some more info, with SOURCES:
[COPIED FROM SITE]
Q: Was President Obama’s tour bus made in Canada?
A: The shell of the $1.1 million bus came from Canada, but it was converted for the Secret Service by a company in Tennessee.
[it was purchased through the Tennessee company, they didn’t just convert them, see below ~mia]
[COPIED FROM SITE]
“Here’s the story on the bus. It was one of two custom buses ordered by the Secret Service in July 2010 from Hemphill Brothers Coach Company in Whites Creek, Tennessee, according to Secret Service spokesman George Ogilvie and purchasing documents.

The shell of the bus was, in fact, procured from a Canadian company, Prevost, a Quebec-based firm that specializes in the manufacturing of bus shells for the high-end conversion market (think pop stars, corporate buses, etc.). Although the buses were purchased from an American company, the Secret Service was aware the shell came from Canada.

[the next paragraph ses WHY they were made in Canada.~mia]

The bus was then “converted” by Hemphill to meet the unique specifications required by the Secret Service. Ogilvie said the buses were purchased from a sole-source provider (no-bid), because of the “requirement that we’d be able to SUPPORT THE WEIGHT of security and communications enhancements.”

At the TIME of the contract, he said, it was BELIEVED to be the only vehicle that had the payload capacity to meet the Secret Service’s needs.

Both buses — a “long overdue” addition to the Secret Service’s protective fleet — will be offered to others eligible for Secret Service protection, including the eventual REPUBLICAN NOMINEE for president.


Here is the ‘source’ link for the above info
http://www.factcheck.org/2011/08/obamas-canadian-american-bus/

Seems to me that if no American company is making a bus frame to meet the specifications needed, you have to go elsewhere.

I was not arguing with her. I’m still not, I know I saw on one of the sites that a Republican somewhere was calling a press conference to raise ‘objections’. That guy has reliable sources I’m sure and is just not saying things to get people all emotional. 😄

{My tongue just went all the way through my cheek.}

All I have proven here is that you can ALWAYS find information on the internet or on TV, showing two opposite versions of the same story and it is silly to get so worked up thinking you’re right when you yourself were not there.

With our, [the public’s] limited ability to figure out what is right and wrong OR WHAT EVEN REALLY HAPPENED in any situation that gets reported, we each have to make our decision and go with it.

Be aware if you are being so closed-minded, angry and emotional that you don’t even read with enough clarity to know what something says or what someone has actually asked. There are a lot of Sues out there.

So, back to the conversation with Sue, even though I said – if she responded, I would too, I didn’t and I won’t.

It really isn’t my intention to cause her stress. She’s causing herself enough. The conversation reached the name – calling phase right away and is going nowhere. Was it a comprehension problem caused by strong emotion?

And at the end Sue felt the need to include her full name and PhD title. Did ya catch that? What an ego! Like that has anything to do with this. If it was supposed to impress me, it didn’t. A doctor of some kind with reading and comprehension problems? I’d be more worried if this whole thing didn’t happen because she let her emotions run away with her.

I do pray for her and others like her who are caught up in their own patterns of cloudy negative thinking, find clarity.

The last person I had this sort of discussion with was 13 years old. I felt sorry for her and hoped she wouldn’t take this stuff so seriously that it upset her so much. With my second note, that was my intention with Sue too.

Please-please share information on the web and elsewhere responsibly. Find and include sources when you’re accusing someone of something bad at least. AND REMEMBER TO BREATHE.

Does anyone else see how pointless this all was? It is pointless and has been going on for centuries!

99% of all conversation is unnecessary and can even be harmful. Keep a cool head and ‘see’ with clarity.

LOL – Pointless, except I learned more about human behavior and got more fodder for my blog 😀

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Software

I got a new computer that won’t run photoshop and other non microsoft programs. It would have been much cheaper to fix that old computer rather then replace the computer or all the non-microsoft software i have that won’t run on 64bit.
My writing continues, since MS word and office suites still work. The free software, open office works too, and i like it very much. the only reason i went back to MS office was that some sites would only accept files from it. Open office can open and save as doc files too, but since i had ms office it was just as easy to do it this way for a while.
Really, i don’t use it that much anymore, but i do like to restore photos from time to time 😀

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Gone Too Far
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